C’mon. Do You Really Believe That? Arguing Just for the Fun of It

“I respect you as a person too much to respect your ridiculous beliefs.”

Johann Hari

We all know that person. The one who likes to question that belief we hold near and dear and seems to do so chiefly for the fun of it. Or, maybe you are that person.

In his quote above, Hari suggests that challenging beliefs is an act of respect designed to straighten out the principles of the misguided. However, what we are addressing here is not so serious or benevolent. It’s about people challenging beliefs for entertainment – for fun.

A belief is an ingrained idea. Depending on the idea, it can be a little careless to think it is something to treat like a frivolous toy – that it’s something with which to play. However, some view the world as a giant chessboard with all the pieces, positions, and strategies in play. Among them, it might seem natural to contest others’ beliefs just for exercise and amusement.

These differing attitudes were highlighted in one of our polls. We asked our 16Personalities community to agree or disagree with the statement: “You often challenge other people’s beliefs just for fun.” Here’s what they said.

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Roles

Agreement with “You often challenge other people’s beliefs, just for fun.”

Analysts (76% agreeing)

It would surprise few that a type called the “Debater” (ENTP) would be among the individuals who most often said they got their jollies from challenging the views of others. A strong 83% of them agreed with the statement – the highest rate of any personality type. Debaters love to get the upper hand in a discussion. They are the poster children for the Analyst Role, which as a group agreed with our statement the most.

The most obvious factor involved here is the Thinking trait. Personality types with the Thinking trait (including all Analysts and some Explorers and Sentinels) agreed with the statement at a rate that was 31 percentage points higher than those with the Feeling trait. Defending rationality takes higher priority for Analysts than caring who gets hurt or becomes angry. Because of this trait difference, Analysts are an impressive 31 percentage points more likely than the next highest group to say they challenge beliefs for fun.

Individuals with the imaginative Intuitive personality trait ask, “What if?” When this trait is paired with the Thinking trait, like with Analysts, a challenge to a belief is about making sure that the rational pieces are all in place. “But what if the logic added up this way instead of that way?” Nothing less than the purest logical argument is likely to survive their scrutiny. At least 75% find it entertaining to dissect a belief that doesn’t meet their standards.

Diplomats (45%)

Diplomats were the second highest group to agree with the statement (and almost tied with Explorers). While Diplomats share the Intuitive trait with Analysts, their Feeling trait moderates their proclivity for arguing for fun. “Fun challenging” is much more of an Analyst sport. Diplomat personality types tend to be slower and less likely than Analysts to challenge others due to their need to maintain an agreeable environment.

Most Diplomats would be a good measure removed from thinking of such a challenge as “fun.” However, they may challenge others if they feel such an argument leads to the greater good. They can be dogmatic, but that’s something different. That’s usually something serious. Less than half of them would take on someone else’s beliefs for mere amusement.

Explorers (44%)

Interestingly, there was no statistically significant difference between Diplomats’ and Explorers’ positive responses to the statement. But there is typically a difference in their motivation. Explorer personalities don’t mind shaking things up. They have a nonconformist streak, and almost half of them who defy others’ beliefs probably do so just to keep things interesting.

Having said this, Explorer personality types with the Thinking trait agreed at higher rates. Entrepreneurs (ESTP) (69%) had an even higher percentage of agreement than Architects (INTJ) (66%), and Virtuosos (ISTP) (63%) weren’t far behind. This speaks to the degree that the Thinking trait influences recreational argumentativeness.

From another angle, the Observant/Feeling combination resulted in the lowest percentages of respondents agreeing. Among Explorers, Entertainers (ESFP) agreed at 37% and Adventurers (ISFP) at 29%. This pairs the practicality of the Observant trait with the people-orientation of the Feeling trait. These personality types likely see little reason to risk offending people by messing with their beliefs. This balances out the Explorers as a group.

Sentinels (31%)

The other Observant Role, the Sentinels, were the group least likely to agree with our statement. They display the same practicality as Explorers.

But, unlike with Explorers, that practicality is supported by their Judging tactic. Sentinel personalities are more likely to hold things in place rather than disrupt the status quo – especially if the disruption is “just for fun.” They are more likely to support a long- or tightly-held belief rather than challenge it. This makes challenging others for kicks less likely.

But this is about tendencies. Sentinel Thinking types – Executives (ESTJ), with 56% agreeing, and Logisticians (ISTJ), 46% – were a lot closer to the average than Feeling types – Consuls (ESFJ), 23%, and Defenders (ISFJ), 19%. So, even in Sentinels’ desire not to rock the boat, the Thinking trait exerts a lot of influence. Caring, protective Defenders, who are the opposite of Debaters in every trait, agreed the least of all the personality types.

Strategies

Agreement with “You often challenge other people’s beliefs, just for fun.”

There’s a very small (but significant) difference between the responses of Introverts and Extraverts and even less between Assertive and Turbulent personality types. Members of the Social Engagement Strategy agreed with our statement at a rate of 51%, People Mastery at 50%, Confident Individualism at 46%, and Constant Improvement at 43%.

None of these qualities tell us much about how someone might respond to this statement. Extraversion correlated with slightly higher agreement, probably because people with this trait are more willing to jump into the fray. But the difference is not so great as to say that Introversion has some kind of stifling effect on the impulse to argue for fun.

Conclusions

Carl Jung warned that we should avoid turning personality typology into a parlor game. And we generally agree with that sentiment when using these powerful tools.

But when hanging out with others, if you notice someone who seems to delight in questioning every idea that comes from another, you can probably guess some of their personality traits. If they aren’t Analysts, then there is a good chance they more often express the Thinking rather than Feeling trait regardless of their type.

In these contentious times, do you enjoy challenging other people’s beliefs? Or do you avoid doing so? Why? And how does it fit with your personality type? Let us know. We’d love your perspective.

Further Reading

When Criticism Gets Personal

Emotional Intelligence and Analysts: Finding What Works

Cooperation or Capitulation?: How Personality Types View Compromise

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Arguing is fun, man.
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I agree with you (when it is to a certain extent), read more of my opinion by reading my comment:
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Tricky one - I am a Mediator (with quite a lot of Advocate traits as well) with some pretty deeply rooted beliefs in things like feminism, racial equality, social justice, etc. and I get very frustrated when people (usually Debaters and Commanders, dare I say it...) start challenging those in the name of playing devil's advocate. Mostly, my anger and frustration in these situations is not because I'm sensitive or don't like debate - it's because joking about certain topics actively hurts the people involved e.g. the "argument" that women like being dominated in bed and that "maybe means yes, and no means maybe" perpetuates rape culture and both puts real women at risk and prevents them from speaking out against the perpetrators. Also, it is incredibly emotionally draining to be constantly forced to justify one's own rights and even existence. I spent years discussing women's rights with men who wanted to "play devil's advocate" before I realised that I shouldn't have to win a debate in order to convince people that I am entitled to work and live and have bodily autonomy in the same way as a man. It's easy to have a "logical, rational, objective debate" when none of the issues have an impact on your life. On the other hand, when I see other people with views which I consider irrational, incorrect or hypocritical, then I feel compelled to try to make them reconsider - e.g. a friend of mine who is a passionate socialist and condemns anyone who works for a profit-making organisation, but is currently unemployed and can only sit there moralising because she is living with her middle-class, money-earning parents.... I think what it boils down to is that I think challenging other people's belief is acceptable and even admirable when it comes from a genuine desire to educate and enlighten, and when the challenger is respectful and ready to listen and understand the thoughts and feelings behind those beliefs, but that it is not acceptable when it hurts or dehumanises - whether that is the intention or not.
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All of this. In fact this sounds like something I might write! I’m probably more tolerant of Analysts poking holes in my beliefs; my father is most likely an INTP, my grandmother may have been ENTP, most of my friends in high school and college were Analysts, and my boyfriend is INTP. I’m very used to having my beliefs challenged, and at some points I’m glad they were, because it got me away from my narrow-minded religious upbringing (ISFJ mother) and helped me form solid morals based not on dogma and social convention, but on the greater good and with a more logical foundation. That said, there is a huge gap between genuine curiosity and disagreement, and condescending intolerance, which I’ve seen many less healthy or less mature Analysts and other Thinking types display. You can ask questions of someone’s beliefs in a search for the truth, without talking down to them or dismissing their more emotional/subjective reasons for why they believe what they believe. I’ve seen too many Thinking types claim that they’re doing this in the name of “logic,” when it comes across to me as more about pride and showing off. When it comes to real logic, I think, “what would a Vulcan do or say?” A Vulcan would try to maintain emotional distance from the issue, but in the end wouldn’t hesitate to admit if he or she were wrong in some manner, because in the end pride and ego are irrelevant to the larger concern of the greater good and the solution to the problem. I’ve also seen less mature Analysts hand-wave Feeling types’ beliefs as ideology when they themselves subscribe to an ideology of one sort or another. That brings me to your second point, which is that whenever I see someone expressing hypocrisy or double standards, I can’t help but call them out on it most of the time. Hypocrisy and double standards are the easiest way to make me very angry. I see people of all types engaged in this, but oftentimes those who haven’t thought through their position or who have narcissistic tendencies are most prone to this. Again, I’m not naming any specific type for this behavior; it seems to be just a general human flaw, which many Mediators in general detest. But like many people, I have not been immune to hypocrisy myself. Which is why I try to welcome debate, and I think many other people should too, so long as it’s constructive, not just to feed someone’s smug ego and make them look smart.
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Also, slightly off topic, but I wish I could get ahold of those people you talk to who insist that women liking domination = questionable consent is okay. In sexual subcultures domination is completely consensual, and stories like Fifty Shades of Gray are incredibly misleading. So not only are they morally messed up, they’re just plain wrong.
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this is so so so true <3
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Challenging others ideas for fun sucks.
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In most cases: “Why not!?”
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OOPS, i thought you were talking about snacks, LoL.